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Win or lose, Mayor Bloomberg would make a big impact on '08 race if he runs
News Type: Event — Seeded on Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:37 AM EST
Article Source: NY Daily Newsadvertisement
If Mayor Bloomberg runs for President, he probably won't win even if he spends big - but the billionaire's impact on the race would be enormous, political experts said Tuesday.
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{"commentId":1320401,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
Joseph Mercurio, one of the pundits who gave Bloomberg a 50% shot at winning if he runs, said voters' dissatisfaction with the Democratic and Republican hopefuls makes the mayor a viable candidate.
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- 2 votes
#1 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:38 AM EST{"commentId":1320697,"authorDomain":"beapluss"}
Maybe I should go back to high school math classes, but a 50% shot in a 3-way race seems like pretty good odds, no?
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1320765,"authorDomain":"aktylor"}
Math class aside, this is the year for a serious third-party candidate. With the Republican President's ratings at a low, and the Democratic House ratings at a low, it's like Moses parting the Red Sea to let an independent walk right up to the swearing in.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1320872,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
Yes, good odds, Bearpluss, but I think Aktylor has a good point.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1321834,"authorDomain":"electricblanket"}
The right 3rd party candidate might have a chance, but I don't think that person is Bloomberg.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1320648,"authorDomain":"politi-c"}
"The bottom line: It's awful hard for an independent to win"
This is very true -- and one of the key reasons we're in the mess we're in today. 2008 could be the year when the very truth of that statement inspires voters to try something different.
Bloomberg looks like a long shot right now -- because the field is so crowded. But just wait till voters are comparing only 3 candidates. A 50% chance won't look so far-fetched.
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- 2 votes
#2 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:20 AM EST{"commentId":1320654,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
I agree. It is unlikely an independent would win.
It's more likely an issue of taking votes from other candidates.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1321124,"authorDomain":"politi-c"}
It's more likely an issue of taking votes from other candidates.
Uh, yes, that would be the point, wouldn't it? Taking enough to win the election?
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1321339,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
Uh, yes, that would be the point, wouldn't it? Taking enough to win the election?
Obviously.... In the strictest interpretation.
But, in the larger sense, Bloomberg is far too savvy to believe he can win.
My point is that he is trying to divide voting blocks by putting himself in the race as a sacrificial lamb of sorts. He knows he won't win, but I don't think winning is the point of the gambit.
Of course, I can't read Bloomberg's mind. Still............
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1321418,"authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}
I still think that Bloomberg has a great chance to take this election no matter what happens. Third party candidates have traditionally meant a Democratic Party loss as best I can remember.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1321644,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
{"commentId":1321857,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
I still think that Bloomberg has a great chance to take this election no matter what happens.
I think a lot of New Yorkers will vote for him, Cliff.
He certainly has run New York very well, and my sense is that the people who live there really like him. More importantly, too, perhaps is that they respect what he has done.
I am not sure that his exploits are well known enough nationally to facilitate a win.
I deleted prior post because I inverted the quoted section.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1322105,"authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}
He is very smart and well-spoken. And he would be the only candidate who has been in both parties fairly prominently.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1320721,"authorDomain":"AnthonyGripps"}
Of the dozen political consultants the Daily News interviewed, many said Bloomberg was more likely to steal votes from Democrats than from Republicans, although both would suffer if he runs.
This is the part that bothers me. He's certainly not aligned with the Republican platform ... so would he really spend money to give them a better shot at the White House?
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- 2 votes
#3 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:52 AM EST{"commentId":1320744,"authorDomain":"pollyprotest"}
From what I've read, he's not fond of the way either party conducts business.
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{"commentId":1320768,"authorDomain":"aktylor"}
This is the part that bothers me. He's certainly not aligned with the Republican platform ... so would he really spend money to give them a better shot at the White House?
Don't forget that the last time a billionaire ran for the White House, it took a Bush out of the White House and put a Clinton in.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1320875,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
He's certainly not aligned with the Republican platform ...
It is a tad suspicious that he is deciding to jump into the race, now.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1320877,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
From what I've read, he's not fond of the way either party conducts business.
Maybe he is trying to throw a monkey wrench into the works.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1321421,"authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}
If he is getting in, he needs to do this very soon
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1321769,"authorDomain":"MightyMait"}
Don't forget that the last time a billionaire ran for the White House, it took a Bush out of the White House and put a Clinton in.
I was thinking along those lines!!! If he can just divide the Republicans enough (the more liberal ones voting for him, the more conservative voting for Huckabee (or somebody)), we could be singing "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow" again.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1320898,"authorDomain":"cliffpotter"}
A squareoff between Republican Mitt Romney and Democrat Barack Obama would be the ideal scenario for Mayor Mike, Schnur said.
If Bloomberg entered the race, Senator Obama would not have a chance given his extremely heavy reliance on independent voters who would switch to Bloomberg in a heartbeat IMHO.
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- 2 votes
#4 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 11:02 AM EST{"commentId":1320962,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
That makes sense, Cliff.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1321845,"authorDomain":"electricblanket"}
As an independent voter myself, I would vote for Obama over Bloomberg any day.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":1321815,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
He wouldn't win and New York would lose; on purely selfishly grounds, I oppose the suggestion. :~)
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- 2 votes
#5 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 3:28 PM EST{"commentId":1321826,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
...on purely selfishly grounds, I oppose the suggestion. :~)
I don't think you are alone. :)
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1323295,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
Nah, nothing in New York is really for one alone, whatever it is there's a crowd to join it.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":1322273,"authorDomain":"gossipMOM"}
I'd consider voting for Bloomberg, especially if he and Gore run together on the same ticket.
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- 2 votes
#6 - Wed Jan 2, 2008 5:53 PM EST{"commentId":1322442,"authorDomain":"politi-c"}
I'm not ruling out a Bloomberg/Obama ticket.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":1323299,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
Best thing Gore ever did is get out of politics. I love him promoting his climate issues and wouldn't vote for him on a bet. No one gets to the White House in this age without a lot of baggage and its nice to see his neatly stowed away and moving on with a far better form of public service.
{"commentId":1323299,"threadId":"196675","contentId":"1198644","authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":1323752,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}
Best thing Gore ever did is get out of politics.
He seems happier for it, too.
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- 1 vote
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