Novak: Michelle Obama Nixed Hillary As VP

Agreed, if true.

It's not a cohesive action for the Dems.

No, but it is a really smart action.

So far as i'm concerned, when people talk about how great a VP she would be, they are advertising the fact that they think in sound bytes and don't really know what's going on.

She has directly harmed Obama's chances in the next election. If he were to accept her as VP, every statement he's made about "new politics' will look less real. He will plainly have little control over his VP, as nobody has much control over Hillary. It's all about her; she doesn't care much about her party.

Accepting her would make him weak, and more importantly it would make him look weak. It would directly cost him votes on both sides of the aisle. Many moderate Republicans who would be willing to vote for Obama would vote against him if she enters the picture, and there are some Democrats who would shift as well.

But above all that, why occupy the second most important position with someone whom he can't trust? How much authority do you really suppose he would feel able to delegate with her?

Everybody has a right to their opinion of course. Even really dumb ones.

Great. So will a different offer be made? Secretary of State? I bring this up because there will be some price to be paid for peace in the party. What will be that price?

What will be that price?

My guess is that depends on how far she decides ito piss off the Democratic party. She's already into that territory, the longer she goes, the more animosity she builds.

Let's face it ... they MUST be trying to make deals with her RIGHT NOW. The longer she puts them off, the less likely she will get anything out of the deal.

Remember, this is go-for-broke, scorthed-earth Clinton. SHE decides how ugly this will get, and does not give a rat's ass WHO becomes president in 2009 if its not HER.

Great. So will a different offer be made? Secretary of State? I bring this up because there will be some price to be paid for peace in the party. What will be that price?

Well, I'd be fine with that position, although I still think even that is paying a price. I'm guessing he'd be watching her like a hawk every minute.

One of the ideas I've heard floated is that they juggle positions and make compromises to make her leader of the senate, giving her valuable committees and so on. The thing is, that if the Democrats increase their majority, that might end up making her more powerful in the Senate then it would as VP.

My guess is she will become Senate Majority Leader because Obama will need someone rough, tough and ruthless to pass his legislation over the sure filibusters that will come from the Republicans. By that point I hope Hillary is more about kneecapping the Republicans rather than getting revenge for Obama derailing her storybook ending.

Hmmmm allowing right winged lunatic Bob Novak to instigate drama between Hillary and Michelle is silly at best. If the reporting had come from anyone else maybe I would be a bit more interested.

You may not like Bob Novak's politics but no one in this town, on either side of the aisle, would deny his greatness as a reporter.

It's an old set up.

Now when Clinton doesn't get the nod, he'll be able to say "see? I told you.."

Every time I see the term blowhard pundit Robert Novak comes to mind....

Sounds like Novak is trying to make Michelle Obama look bad so that Barack will give in and Clinton can get her pantsuit in the WH even if it means VP.

I am glad that Barack made nothing of it.

@nearing
So am I....

Michelle Obama hardly needs Bob Novak to make her look bad. She's doing a splendid job of that purely on her own.

Bill Harrison
Michelle Obama hardly needs Bob Novak to make her look bad. She's doing a splendid job of that purely on her own.

She [Michelle] can always scratch his [Novak's] eyes out too
LoL.

Yes, Michelle Obama has been tarnished in the press, yet Cindy McCain's criminal conviction for stealing prescription drugs has hardly been given any coverage.

Caroaber, It would have been nice if you had linked to a source about Mrs McCain's drug use. It is true that she did abuse prescription drugs, but she was never criminally convicted.

I do understand and believe you've made an excellent contrast, I wanted to be absolutely sure it was correct before I repeated the story. The fact that she was allowed to enter a diversion program given the severity of her crimes is immoral.

The fact that she was allowed to enter a diversion program given the severity of her crimes is immoral.

But predictable. It's not what you know, it's who you know....

Thanks for that info, caroaber, I wasn't aware of Cindy's addiction and criminal activities until you just mentioned it. If Michelle Obama had anything remotely resembling the same types of behavior it would be on the news 24/7.

Wikipedia also gives some details about the prescriptions theft if you type in Cindy McCain. Her case is a clear example of unequal justice for the rich. But I had heard/read of the disposition of the case referred to as a conviction, so thank you, Kokayi, for the clarification.

Cheryl Johnson
Thanks for that info, caroaber, I wasn't aware of Cindy's addiction and criminal activities until you just mentioned it. If Michelle Obama had anything remotely resembling the same types of behavior it would be on the news 24/7.

Maybe Cindy could write a book about it ?...Like Obama.
Or is that only if you use street drugs?

Obama's use of cocaine and marijuana as a young man, which Obama has been open about in his memoir and on the trail.

Barack Obama was not arrested, and never entered a plea deal.

caroaber
Barack Obama was not arrested, and never entered a plea deal.

I guess he lucked out.
Didn't he?....
Or is breaking the law OK ....if you don't get caught?
Who sold it or gave it to him?....They are felons too.

Everybody here has mud on their glasses - all parties have something to hide and something to be smeared by. Everyone at this level also has somebody to fix things for them, whether their name be McCain, Clinton, or Obama, and whether their gender be male or female. No need to slam anyone on partisan grounds here....

This point is about the differences between media's treatment of Michelle Obama vs. Cindy McCain, the partisanship has already been determined by their own biased practices. At this point in time the only place I read about Cindy McCain's issues was right here in this thread, yet, despite whatever point gpnavonod is making, Michelle Obama is rarely if ever spoken of in favorable terms by the media, other than biographically. It's not about just slinging mud, it's an observation.

Also, I doubt that Michelle wants a woman to enter the scene who is intent on putting her husband's balls in a jar under the kitchen sink.

I don't blame her [Michelle]...she payed a lot for that jar.

@gpnavonod:

G.W. Bush didn't have the nerve to admit to his cocaine use. Sen. Obama did. Your use of the word felon is disingenuous, as Obama is not, and was not ever, a felon. Call it luck if you want, but facts are facts. No arrest and no criminal charges= not a felon.

Who supplied W.'s cocaine? The former alcoholic and current president had all the privileges and protections that go with daddy's money. If you want to chase a story, why not chase that one? Obama stopped his usage as a young adult. Not so the heavy drinker who finally accepted Laura Bush's ultimatum.

I doubt she's much different from Cindy McCain... I mean, John does get an allowance after all. ;-)

Sounds like Barack would be an excellent President in war... his #1 adviser is "just plain mean" and so was George Patton. LOL

Sounds like Barack would be an excellent President in war... his #1 adviser is "just plain mean" and so was George Patton

I thought he was against the war from the begining....and wanting to pull out.
But then Michelle does have some masculine traits. Like attacking Bill Clintons eyes. Very hawkish, I'd say.

gp:
Had you been paying attention to Obama's speech he said that he was not against all wars, just foolish ones and the Iraq war was foolish. His offer to enter Pakistan to get Bin Laden also indicates he is no pacifist.

Ken and Liz Collins
I have read Robert Novak's articles for years and they should all be used for toilet paper !!!

One might wonder why you keep reading them ....and not use the money for Cottonelle.
It will be easier on your "bottom" line.